In the few minutes I had with it I didn’t notice any impressive differences beyond it complaining loudly that I can’t talk about excel cells with “yellow backgrounds”.
> Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. If you hit your limit, you can continue on Fable 5 with usage credits. Fable 5 draws down usage faster than Opus 4.8.
This is what I see in my Claude Code terminal. I don't feel like that 50% rule was there before?
hagbarth · 2026-07-01 19:51:01 UTC
It was not.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-01 20:00:04 UTC
They didn't reset the usage either! Good luck!
aroman · 2026-07-01 20:04:14 UTC
This makes me think they really are quite capacity constrained at the moment.
I had assumed they were primarily limiting it to entice people to upgrade, but I feel like these limits are so low and so temporary (especially over July 4th weekend in the US) that people will barely get a chance to get "used to it" and then think: "man, I can't live without this, I'll pay for API pricing".
timpera · 2026-07-01 20:13:39 UTC
That's strange, because they were seemingly way less capacity constrained lately, raised limits and removed the peak hours usage. It's crazy to think that even spending $1.25 billion a month to rent GPUs from SpaceX didn't do much to improve the situation.
atonse · 2026-07-01 21:14:20 UTC
I don't know, I feel like for a few weeks before the SpaceX datacenter, I was just constantly checking my weekly limits. And now after that miraculously, I rarely even come close to hitting my weekly limits. and I still have 5-7 claudes open a day (defaulting to Opus 4.8 xhigh, sometimes ultracode).
So I feel that the additional datacenter caused them to just ease up a bit. But demand is also insane, so who knows...
unshavedyak · 2026-07-01 21:29:27 UTC
Yea, i'm on x20 and while it has been up and down in terms of token-usage-UX, i feel like its the best its ever been. Context: I entirely use Opus 4.8 fwiw.
Now is that because 4.8 is nerfed compared to 4.6 and thus more token efficient? No idea. I just know on x20 with a pretty plain workflow i struggle to use my tokens every week.
echelon · 2026-07-01 20:15:26 UTC
If it's API pricing, I'm going to ditch Claude Code and switch to a harness that can jump between GLM and Claude Code.
Cheap pricing is why I use Claude Code. The minute they fumble that, I'm using Chinese models for 90% of the work.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-01 20:38:31 UTC
Yeah. Their cheap subscriptions are the only reason to keep using them. If they ruin the plans there's nothing holding us back anymore.
holoduke · 2026-07-01 20:47:21 UTC
I dont believe they can afford to switch to API pricing. Everyone will leave.
I am easily spending the equivalent of 1000 dollars a day on tokens with two max subscriptions. that about 400 dollars a month. Thats acceptable for my position. But thats like 30k per month. Totally not viable.
Natfan · 2026-07-01 21:04:38 UTC
how can a harness switch between glm (a model) and claude code (another harness)?
aroman · 2026-07-01 21:31:19 UTC
I've been doing this for ages - you just spin up harness B as a subprocess/tool call from harness A. For example, I had a "/codex-review" claude skill for ages that did exactly that. Technically you're right it wouldn't be switching, since you're right the two ideas are at different altitudes, but I think in practice it has the same impact: within one harness, you can delegate certain tasks to certain models or harnesses.
haellsigh · 2026-07-01 21:25:50 UTC
Well, it looks like they just did reset the usage!
steve-atx-7600 · 2026-07-01 21:51:09 UTC
Opus 4.8 is so slow vs gpt 5.5 that even if it is marginally better, it doesn't matter for my daily engineering work. gpt 5.6 will be out soon and codex 249$/month plan has been incredibly generous. Paying the alleged new cost of fabel 5 would require it to be much better that I remember when I used it last.
tekacs · 2026-07-02 03:13:54 UTC
I don't really disagree with you, but one thing I will give Fable credit for is that it's much better at adaptive thinking. In general, it's much better at quickly thinking and responding. It generally has—for me at least—none of the slowness properties of Opus, even when on extra high.
Keyframe · 2026-07-01 23:43:11 UTC
After July 7th, it's going to be only usage model. It's not part of subscription tiers anymore. Somehow I'd rather they didn't put it back. The cost is now effectively 10-20x more than a 20x subscription price if you're going to ride it like before.
recursive · 2026-07-01 19:48:52 UTC
This is getting served with a certificate Firefox says was created by an unknown issuer. It's possible I'm getting hit by a corporate middle-box, but then I'd expect to get this on every single host name.
cevn · 2026-07-01 19:49:25 UTC
twitter? are u sure it's not ur corporate?
recursive · 2026-07-01 19:50:34 UTC
Update: It is my company's middleware box. I'm not sure why I'm not seeing this flagged on other sites.
Update2: They're blocking all (not HN!) social media now because someone got catfished on whatsapp or something.
fuomag9 · 2026-07-01 19:56:21 UTC
Maybe they are blocking just Claude?
kube-system · 2026-07-01 19:59:15 UTC
those MITM firewalls can have different configurations for different sites
fishgoesblub · 2026-07-01 19:48:54 UTC
Was confused, thinking I somehow missed the release of the game Fable 4, only to be disappointed when I saw this is about Claude LLM crap.
recursive · 2026-07-01 19:52:32 UTC
It's kind of like that time "crypto" changed it's meaning to cryptocurrencies and NFTs.
HeckFeck · 2026-07-01 21:06:47 UTC
Peter Molyneux continues to re-invent himself. His newest "god game" claims to have the ability to code any game you like, on demand. Just as you'd expect from an omnipotent deity!
mlitwiniuk · 2026-07-01 19:50:10 UTC
I have to admit that when it was blocked, I canceled my max plan and asked for a refund. It felt like someone took away my previous toy. So I'm happy it's back again; I upgraded to max again. Coding aside, but Claude Design is phenomenal - for both new designs and redesigning existing UIs. So my customers will face a new wave of refreshed screens all over the place in coming days ;)
coneonthefloor · 2026-07-01 19:54:17 UTC
> So my customers will face a new wave of refreshed screens all over the place in coming days
How do you determine the changes to make?
Do you A/B test?
How do you measure success?
What is your product?
How many customers do you have?
mlitwiniuk · 2026-07-01 20:07:00 UTC
My product is AuditBadger.com - it's an AI-assisted compliance management platform (ISO27001 & SOC2) that guides you through the whole process (with everything a small business might want from such software). Having a few dozen customers allows me to still care about them personally and do onboarding for each and every one of them. During those onboardings, catch-ups, or weekly calls, I see where they struggle. This is how I determine what to work on next. There's no clear measurement of success beyond user satisfaction, though they every now and then praise me a little for UI/UX improvements.
With Claude Design, I've got my design system set up (also by Claude scanning the repo); I upload a screenshot of the area I'm not happy with, prompt with some additional remarks, and after a couple of iterations, I get a proposal, which is always better than what I come up with in the first place.
coneonthefloor · 2026-07-01 20:19:27 UTC
Site does look great. I’ve not used Claude Design. How much do you feel like you were able to give your own personal touch to it?
I ask as I see many vibe coded products that look well but are very generic. It signals vapourware to me. But honestly your site looks a cut above. Do you have a design background?
Also is the design system you mentioned public?
mlitwiniuk · 2026-07-01 21:03:02 UTC
Thanks, I'm seriously blushing ;)
No, the design system isn't public. But only because it's a month old and I never considered opening it. I'll give it some thought.
I don't have a design background, but I ran a software house/dev shop for almost 15 years; maybe that taught me a little. And my very first client, after seeing our very first projects, said one thing: "I don't care how ugly this is, but for god sake, please make it consistent, consistency is only think that matters long-term". Those might not be his exact words, but keeping designs consistent is imo pretty important.
Regarding the personal touch, the app itself is the result of gradual evolution. It started as an HR system, which we worked on in Prograils. It even got its first semi-professional design, which evolved over the last two years (during which I learned that bootstrapping an HRMS is a very bad idea ;)). As for the website, I have to admin it - Claude Design did it. I was testing Fable 5 previously and actually decided to give CD a try. It was the result of one prompt, which gave me five proposals. One made it to the main page, and two others went to my other pet projects (which are meant to drive traffic to AuditBadger).
holoduke · 2026-07-01 20:53:07 UTC
Yep claude design is nice. You can also do it from CLI or your own lovable clone. I made a fork from claudable https://github.com/holoduke/Claudable
What I find stong with Fable is that it can pixel perfect copy existing sites or designs. And it can do complete conversions from plain html to nuxt, angular or react apps.
mlitwiniuk · 2026-07-01 21:40:19 UTC
This is cool, I'll give it a try with my next pet project. So most likely next week, once I'm done with Fable ;) (seriously, I haven't started as many pet projects in the last 10 years as I did in the last 12 months).
rvz · 2026-07-01 19:50:21 UTC
They also announced a promotional offer in here: [0]
> For a limited time, you can use our newest model—Claude Fable 5—at no extra cost as part of your subscription plan.
> During the promotional period, you can use up to 50% of your weekly subscription limits on Claude Fable 5 at no extra cost.
So it lasts for a week until July 7, 2026 at 11:59:59 PM PT. Then they will pull the plug on that.
So it sounds like a great time to roll the dice, pull that lever, spin that roulette wheel and spend as many tokens as possible, at no extra cost at the Anthropic casino's latest upgraded slot machine called Fable 5.
Available to gamblers while capacity and availability lasts. Most importantly have fun and don't blow up your budget.
The loss of trust in using US based model's is unlikely to come back though.
Anthropic with it's hyped doomsday messaging, and the administration falling for it (at best), has eroded a lot of trust and has triggered an arms race of sorts.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-01 20:07:47 UTC
Here's to OpenAI and a chinese firms bringing some much needed competition.
logancbrown · 2026-07-01 20:30:04 UTC
Amusing to see OpenAI being the "good guy" in the end
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-01 20:59:52 UTC
They didn't become the good guy, Anthropic became the bad guy instead. The good guys are the chinese firms releasing open weight models.
captainbland · 2026-07-01 22:38:37 UTC
There's no good guys, just entities you might be able to get marginal value from, who in turn want to get marginal value from you
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-01 23:05:02 UTC
No. The "good guys" are the ones who provide permanent value: open weight models, hardware we can afford, purchase and own. The good guys offer sovereignty.
The "you'll buy intelligence from us on a meter" rent seekers are technofeudalists. Just a bunch of "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" oligarchs who must be resisted at all costs. Anthropic had a reputation for ethics at first but it quickly became clear it was just like OpenAI but with a patronizing attitude.
The fact China is releasing open weight models will never not be amusing. I expected better from the USA.
applicative · 2026-07-02 02:02:02 UTC
The purpose is the destabilization and discrediting of democracy. The Beijing state, in concert with Putin and ex-Khamenei, has no other purpose but to prove there is no democratic alternative. Sure, it turns out you get free things as e.g. one got free RT America.
scotty79 · 2026-07-02 05:54:37 UTC
> The purpose is the destabilization and discrediting of democracy.
Unless they made US elect trump it's hard to see how they might be damaging democracy more than the democracy damages itself.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-02 08:29:33 UTC
> destabilization and discrediting of democracy
Democracies don't need any help whatsoever in that area, they're more than happy to do that to themselves on a daily basis.
SubiculumCode · 2026-07-02 02:18:38 UTC
So... it IS China, not just companies in China. And why would the CCP want to give out open weights, hmm? Because they are all kindness and love? No. It is just their approach to counter dominance in the space by Western frontier labs. No need to make moral attributions..it is everything, and I mean everything, about Great Power Competition.
3fffss · 2026-07-02 02:48:57 UTC
That is literally the point of world trade buddy... lmao
Its just funny how there is some scary boogeyman around China. You do realise the idiotic west gave china everything - from know-how, techniques to IP by benefitting from lower costs of production?
What they are doing is pretty fair game.
SubiculumCode · 2026-07-02 04:30:17 UTC
No,it's not just like world trade. It's world trade within strategic good, assets, and, capabilities relevant to national security...e.g. critical minerals, high end chips, and artificial intelligence, and others. Not all world trade is as central to national security, and is only relevant to national security in aggregate. I do agree that the U.S. made bad choices in terms of over-reliance on Chinese supply chains. Too much credence was given to the idea that capitalism would democratize China in the absence of other supporting factors/culture.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-02 08:20:05 UTC
Their self serving reasons are irrelevant. The results can be moral even if the players aren't. The key is to somehow prevent any one of them from dominating completely so we can play them off one another and keep reaping the rewards. If China's undermining efforts achieves that, so be it. The fact we're getting permanent access to powerful models as a result is nothing short of awesome.
In order for us to win, neither China nor the US can win. The ideal situation is the one where they exhaust themselves trying while we benefit by picking up the pieces.
alecco · 2026-07-01 23:15:25 UTC
> The good guys are the chinese firms
Eh... I'd say DeepSeek and maybe one more of the small labs. Chinese Big Tech is even worse than US Big Tech.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-01 23:36:54 UTC
Whichever firm is distilling the frontier models and releasing the weights is doing god's work. I'll forever thank them for that.
applicative · 2026-07-02 01:59:23 UTC
They're great but in fact it is state financed economic war against the democratic world.
supriyo-biswas · 2026-07-02 05:11:58 UTC
That could easily change if the frontier labs would release their (N-1)th model or (N-2)th model as open weights. Unfortunately, they won't.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-02 08:34:24 UTC
The democratic world that wants to price me out of computers? Lock me out with remote attestation? Put me in a permanent underclass where I'm forced to rent computers and inference from the owner class instead of operating my own systems? A world so democratic it's degenerating into technofeudalism? Where you'll own nothing and you'll be happy?
China's not looking too bad.
alecco · 2026-07-02 09:07:28 UTC
Chinese Big Tech aim to do that and worse, also in bed with their political class. They only do open source because their hand was forced.
Today big pockets and big datacenters are the differentiatior and it looks like even DeepSeek can't keep up.
The only chance if enough people and small companies join forces into a Rebellion of sorts. But I don't see this happening... yet.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-02 09:29:55 UTC
> Chinese Big Tech aim to do that and worse
At least they're honest about it. No preaching about freedom or safety like the USA.
> They only do open source because their hand was forced.
Optimal outcome considering the status quo. I hope the USA and China keep forcing each other's hands until the end of time so that we can keep reaping the benefits of their competition. If China develops their own DRAM and GPU industries, it would significantly weaken the threat of US export bans on inference capable hardware.
replwoacause · 2026-07-02 01:29:49 UTC
Yeah this is wild stuff. Seeing Anthropic free fall after building up such good will is shocking.
SubiculumCode · 2026-07-02 02:19:34 UTC
Personally, I think it is manufactured outrage by those with an agenda.
senordevnyc · 2026-07-02 03:09:51 UTC
Free fall? None of this recent Mythos / Fable drama is going to even slow Anthropic down.
The HN bubble strikes again.
matheusmoreira · 2026-07-02 08:41:08 UTC
It's certainly not going to affect their valuation, but their reputation as the "ethical" AI company is gone.
dghlsakjg · 2026-07-01 20:12:29 UTC
OTOH: “our product is so good it was banned for being too good” is the best advertising possible. OpenAI would kill to get that.
I’m not falling over myself to test out Sonnet 5, but I am very interested in Fable.
"U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"
digitaltrees · 2026-07-01 21:50:07 UTC
First mover got all the power of the narrative.
dghlsakjg · 2026-07-01 22:05:03 UTC
"W have to go through a regulatory approval process like everyone else" is so much less sexy than "Our model was so powerful that it got banned by the government after a few hours and now all our competitors have to go through a regulatory process invented because of us"
bel8 · 2026-07-01 22:13:34 UTC
There's nothing sexy about it. From the get go they were accused of FUD drama and that it backfired as predicted. Now what I see in reality is that Anthropic mostly reaped more resentment from their poor marketing attempt. And their model is basically useless or unreliable from being lobotomized by guardrails.
Subscription folks barely have access to the model. Some report a single prompt before hitting weekly limit. And that's when it works instead of downgrading.
If that is a first movers play, it's a disastrous one.
How sexy do you think this guy finds Anthropic now?
> Today I told Sonnet (!) to use a browser MCP to enter a username and password for the project it is working on, it told me that it can't do that because it violates its security protocol.
> This worked fine before. I love Claude, I have stuck with it even through people saying Codex is better but this is definitely getting to be the last straw.
Meanwhile I can tell GLM 5.2 to decompile and crack anything I want with tools like IDA MCP and packet sniffing and it just works. Let alone code.
kelvinjps10 · 2026-07-01 22:10:24 UTC
It didn't feel the same
sigmar · 2026-07-01 23:43:46 UTC
that's an obsequious Altman, not their model being banned for being too good
usef- · 2026-07-01 22:10:16 UTC
I really don't think this is effective advertising, reactions have been negative virtually everywhere.
The security bugs were real (see the Open Source projects struggling to keep up) so I think gradual rollout was sensible originally before the ban. But people have always resented safety steps.
sajithdilshan · 2026-07-01 20:23:26 UTC
If you've built a product based on AI, then diversify or make an abstraction layer so your product is model agnostic and you can plug and play any model. If you're an end user like a software engineer, just use another model or like Gemini or ChatGPT. That is more productive than complaining about a trust which wasn't there in the first place to begin with.
Anthropic provides a service and they can stop offering it regardless of export ban or not, same goes for any other AI company in any country. If you really wants a trusted LLM, then run your own open weight model.
dominotw · 2026-07-01 20:56:27 UTC
you cannot plug and play random models. they are all different trained on different data and rl for different capabilities.
SwellJoe · 2026-07-01 22:06:53 UTC
They didn't say "random models". The mentioned other models that are trained for the same purpose with close to the same capabilities.
Anthropic's best models are very good, maybe the best in their category. But, they have direct competition. You can, in fact, just switch to Codex or Gemini or GLM. It mostly is plug and play. I have a preference but I also have options.
dominotw · 2026-07-01 22:22:30 UTC
> The mentioned other models that are trained for the same purpose with close to the same capabilities.
well they dont tell you that do they? there is no way to tell what model can and cannot do unless you extensivevly test it yourself and pray for the best.
sajithdilshan · 2026-07-01 22:37:26 UTC
If you don’t have a proper testing mechanism for your product, regardless of the model, you shouldn’t be shipping it. Praying for the best is not a strategy and don’t blame your lack of testing strategy on the LLM capability mismatch
dominotw · 2026-07-01 22:42:19 UTC
even anthropic uses 'user reports' in alignment system card.
Do they lack "testing strategy" to test their own alignment?
Can you share the you testing strategies that are letting you plug and play models.
AtNightWeCode · 2026-07-01 21:10:34 UTC
On the other side. What would happen if Anthropic did not communicate like they did and Fable was used to hack Pentagon? Dario would swing from a tree.
cromka · 2026-07-01 22:55:08 UTC
The vast mojority of its users were probably clueless about all this happening at all. We forget we live in a bubble here on HN. They'll spin it as their success and carry on.
himata4113 · 2026-07-01 19:51:38 UTC
I believe they will keep fable available, but either reduce the usage to 25% or even 10% otherwise I don't think they would have put that much effort into flushing out a system like that.
mccoyb · 2026-07-01 19:51:46 UTC
By the gods! The next 20 minutes will be the most consequential of my life ...
JoshGlazebrook · 2026-07-01 19:53:14 UTC
I really hope they reconsider adding Fable access back to the subscription plans, at least the 20x plan. I know it was the original intention when the 14 day (I think) time frame was originally announced, and they were working to keep it on subscription plans. But no word if thats even a thing anymore?
ceejayoz · 2026-07-01 19:54:29 UTC
Only for the next week.
> Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits.
JoshGlazebrook · 2026-07-01 19:56:11 UTC
Right, but originally they announced a period of time it was included in plans, and then they were "working hard" to extend the period and eventually make it a permanent fixture of the plans.
ceejayoz · 2026-07-01 19:58:14 UTC
I'd imagine that depends on how it winds up being used.
gregw134 · 2026-07-01 19:58:33 UTC
I'd imagine they want to do price segmentation. Sell the best model for $50k a year to corporations willing to pay full price, keep the rest of us on a lower tier. Gotta pay for that infra somehow.
skerit · 2026-07-01 20:25:56 UTC
I just don't really understand the entire strategy behind this. Or their horrible, horrible communication.
Because right now it's as if Fable/Mythos 5 is "the end of the line". It's as if this is the best their models are ever going to be. So what the hell are we going to get next? All of their models will forever inch closer to Fable, but never reach it? That doesn't make any sense.
It all seems so dramatic. Instead of just saying honestly "Look, this model is a beast to run, but we're striving to reach the same quality in a cheaper model down the line" all we get is "Oh my god, it's so big and scary, and it costs so much to run, woe is me!"
themgt · 2026-07-02 01:12:46 UTC
afaik there's somewhat painful economics. Not sure back-of-napkin but something like:
So if bigger model is "smarter" but you effectively wind up with a "shared hosting" model where a coherent inherence node(s) that cost $2m or something can run max 10x customer workloads simultaneously ... not sure what that can be priced at.
If it turns out a $10m/10x shared node can host even smarter models, then what?
versteegen · 2026-07-02 02:36:14 UTC
Fable/Mythos are based on the same model. Not totally clear whether they have identical weights (just different external guardrails), or there's also some slight finetuning difference.
Schiendelman · 2026-07-01 20:22:52 UTC
The market will force them to bring it back. They're probably capacity constrained right now, or need to figure out whether they need another pricing tier for it to "fit in a subscription". What they don't want is for someone to code for 4 days of the week and cap out every week.
seer · 2026-07-02 03:07:13 UTC
Ha! It’s silly easy for me to bum in the “premium” tier - the highest one my employer is able to select for me.
With proper skills and validations, it’s quite easy for me to spin out a Claude instance and keep it running in the background for every idea / problem / bug etc.
Like for example when a new request comes in, or when I have an idea for refactor / improvement, I brainstorm, weed out all the uncertainty and details, then just create a plan and let if follow it (using sonnet / haiku for execution)
I would have 4-5 simultaneous instances running - and all of them produce valuable results.
But then 2-3 days into a week I hit my weekly limit.
And the company can’t pay more for me within Anthropic’s enterprise structure, except for the “extra” api costs. Which itself sounds quite silly to me.
I’ve resorted to running the brainstorming and planning with Claude, but have other tools / companies execute the actual implementation… doesn’t work as well but what can you do…
kodefreeze · 2026-07-01 19:55:25 UTC
It's time for gpt 5.6 to come out too now.
michelb · 2026-07-01 20:16:54 UTC
That’s also going to be limited most likely. I don’t like governments deciding who can have the best products. I can’t shake the feeling there is money changing hands for getting on the access list as well with this administration.
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In the few minutes I had with it I didn’t notice any impressive differences beyond it complaining loudly that I can’t talk about excel cells with “yellow backgrounds”.
https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072163884430229756
Might need a few more Claude subscriptions.
This is what I see in my Claude Code terminal. I don't feel like that 50% rule was there before?
I had assumed they were primarily limiting it to entice people to upgrade, but I feel like these limits are so low and so temporary (especially over July 4th weekend in the US) that people will barely get a chance to get "used to it" and then think: "man, I can't live without this, I'll pay for API pricing".
So I feel that the additional datacenter caused them to just ease up a bit. But demand is also insane, so who knows...
Now is that because 4.8 is nerfed compared to 4.6 and thus more token efficient? No idea. I just know on x20 with a pretty plain workflow i struggle to use my tokens every week.
Cheap pricing is why I use Claude Code. The minute they fumble that, I'm using Chinese models for 90% of the work.
Update2: They're blocking all (not HN!) social media now because someone got catfished on whatsapp or something.
How do you determine the changes to make?
Do you A/B test?
How do you measure success?
What is your product?
How many customers do you have?
I ask as I see many vibe coded products that look well but are very generic. It signals vapourware to me. But honestly your site looks a cut above. Do you have a design background?
Also is the design system you mentioned public?
No, the design system isn't public. But only because it's a month old and I never considered opening it. I'll give it some thought.
I don't have a design background, but I ran a software house/dev shop for almost 15 years; maybe that taught me a little. And my very first client, after seeing our very first projects, said one thing: "I don't care how ugly this is, but for god sake, please make it consistent, consistency is only think that matters long-term". Those might not be his exact words, but keeping designs consistent is imo pretty important.
Regarding the personal touch, the app itself is the result of gradual evolution. It started as an HR system, which we worked on in Prograils. It even got its first semi-professional design, which evolved over the last two years (during which I learned that bootstrapping an HRMS is a very bad idea ;)). As for the website, I have to admin it - Claude Design did it. I was testing Fable 5 previously and actually decided to give CD a try. It was the result of one prompt, which gave me five proposals. One made it to the main page, and two others went to my other pet projects (which are meant to drive traffic to AuditBadger).
> For a limited time, you can use our newest model—Claude Fable 5—at no extra cost as part of your subscription plan.
> During the promotional period, you can use up to 50% of your weekly subscription limits on Claude Fable 5 at no extra cost.
So it lasts for a week until July 7, 2026 at 11:59:59 PM PT. Then they will pull the plug on that.
So it sounds like a great time to roll the dice, pull that lever, spin that roulette wheel and spend as many tokens as possible, at no extra cost at the Anthropic casino's latest upgraded slot machine called Fable 5.
Available to gamblers while capacity and availability lasts. Most importantly have fun and don't blow up your budget.
[0] https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15424964-claude-fable...
Anthropic with it's hyped doomsday messaging, and the administration falling for it (at best), has eroded a lot of trust and has triggered an arms race of sorts.
The "you'll buy intelligence from us on a meter" rent seekers are technofeudalists. Just a bunch of "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" oligarchs who must be resisted at all costs. Anthropic had a reputation for ethics at first but it quickly became clear it was just like OpenAI but with a patronizing attitude.
The fact China is releasing open weight models will never not be amusing. I expected better from the USA.
Unless they made US elect trump it's hard to see how they might be damaging democracy more than the democracy damages itself.
Democracies don't need any help whatsoever in that area, they're more than happy to do that to themselves on a daily basis.
Its just funny how there is some scary boogeyman around China. You do realise the idiotic west gave china everything - from know-how, techniques to IP by benefitting from lower costs of production?
What they are doing is pretty fair game.
In order for us to win, neither China nor the US can win. The ideal situation is the one where they exhaust themselves trying while we benefit by picking up the pieces.
Eh... I'd say DeepSeek and maybe one more of the small labs. Chinese Big Tech is even worse than US Big Tech.
China's not looking too bad.
Today big pockets and big datacenters are the differentiatior and it looks like even DeepSeek can't keep up.
The only chance if enough people and small companies join forces into a Rebellion of sorts. But I don't see this happening... yet.
At least they're honest about it. No preaching about freedom or safety like the USA.
> They only do open source because their hand was forced.
Optimal outcome considering the status quo. I hope the USA and China keep forcing each other's hands until the end of time so that we can keep reaping the benefits of their competition. If China develops their own DRAM and GPU industries, it would significantly weaken the threat of US export bans on inference capable hardware.
The HN bubble strikes again.
I’m not falling over myself to test out Sonnet 5, but I am very interested in Fable.
I have news for you, from 5 days ago.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48690101
"U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"
Subscription folks barely have access to the model. Some report a single prompt before hitting weekly limit. And that's when it works instead of downgrading.
If that is a first movers play, it's a disastrous one.
How sexy do you think this guy finds Anthropic now?
> Today I told Sonnet (!) to use a browser MCP to enter a username and password for the project it is working on, it told me that it can't do that because it violates its security protocol.
> This worked fine before. I love Claude, I have stuck with it even through people saying Codex is better but this is definitely getting to be the last straw.
Meanwhile I can tell GLM 5.2 to decompile and crack anything I want with tools like IDA MCP and packet sniffing and it just works. Let alone code.
The security bugs were real (see the Open Source projects struggling to keep up) so I think gradual rollout was sensible originally before the ban. But people have always resented safety steps.
Anthropic provides a service and they can stop offering it regardless of export ban or not, same goes for any other AI company in any country. If you really wants a trusted LLM, then run your own open weight model.
Anthropic's best models are very good, maybe the best in their category. But, they have direct competition. You can, in fact, just switch to Codex or Gemini or GLM. It mostly is plug and play. I have a preference but I also have options.
well they dont tell you that do they? there is no way to tell what model can and cannot do unless you extensivevly test it yourself and pray for the best.
Do they lack "testing strategy" to test their own alignment?
Can you share the you testing strategies that are letting you plug and play models.
> Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits.
Because right now it's as if Fable/Mythos 5 is "the end of the line". It's as if this is the best their models are ever going to be. So what the hell are we going to get next? All of their models will forever inch closer to Fable, but never reach it? That doesn't make any sense.
It all seems so dramatic. Instead of just saying honestly "Look, this model is a beast to run, but we're striving to reach the same quality in a cheaper model down the line" all we get is "Oh my god, it's so big and scary, and it costs so much to run, woe is me!"
If it turns out a $10m/10x shared node can host even smarter models, then what?
With proper skills and validations, it’s quite easy for me to spin out a Claude instance and keep it running in the background for every idea / problem / bug etc.
Like for example when a new request comes in, or when I have an idea for refactor / improvement, I brainstorm, weed out all the uncertainty and details, then just create a plan and let if follow it (using sonnet / haiku for execution)
I would have 4-5 simultaneous instances running - and all of them produce valuable results.
But then 2-3 days into a week I hit my weekly limit.
And the company can’t pay more for me within Anthropic’s enterprise structure, except for the “extra” api costs. Which itself sounds quite silly to me.
I’ve resorted to running the brainstorming and planning with Claude, but have other tools / companies execute the actual implementation… doesn’t work as well but what can you do…