With all of the privacy concerns of Flock, at least in the interim it’s a useful honeypot for criminal law enforcement.
SlightlyLeftPad · 2026-08-28 19:20:12 UTC
Completely agree that there is a possible silver lining of exposing some of these. However, even if they get fired from this department, they often just get hired later by their buddies in the neighboring county.
brazukadev · 2026-08-28 19:30:12 UTC
> Police officer *arrested* after tracking ex-girlfriend on Flock over 2k times
toomuchtodo · 2026-08-28 19:38:00 UTC
Public records and databases available to citizens is a potential control against these folks getting hired again in positions of power and trust in the future (positions that warrant a greater level of accountability, imho). It is a form of append only public distributed trust ledger. Correlate such datasets against your local law enforcement staffing continually if their hiring criteria is suboptimal, using a combination of FOIA/FOIL requests and on the ground activism/investigative journalism.
I have to assume this is just the dumbest of the criminals that are getting caught. I don't know why it takes 2K cases to determine "hey, this might not be above board...".
If that's the tact and PR they want to take until their operational model is outlawed or strictly regulated, more power to them. Keeps someone on their comms/PR team employed I suppose.
randycupertino · 2026-08-28 19:19:55 UTC
This is just a drop in the bucket. There have been at least 50 cops charged with using flock data to stalk ex partners and women they are interested in!
>“It’s a very effective tool and we don’t want to be judged on the poor decisions made by one officer.”
Yeah, I bet you don't.
cucumber3732842 · 2026-08-28 19:50:38 UTC
They must really want to use this tech on us if they're willing to throw their own under the bus for using it "wrong".
Regardless, hemming and hawing about lack of access controls and rogue (i.e. not using to do their job properly) cops is implicitly saying that this system could/would/should exist if it has "proper" access controls, whatever that means. It's like seeing a slave labor gulag and saying that the prisoners need better recreation ad more frequent laundry as if that would make it not fundamentally a gulag. To say things like access controls need to be fixed or tied to warrants is advocating for turd polishing. Even with proper access controls the purpose of these systems is to create misery at the hands of the state. The turd is still a turd even if it's shiny.
ratelimitsteve · 2026-08-28 21:35:03 UTC
The aristocrats have had to split their treasure with the thugs since the beginning of time and this represents a very real chance to keep huge swaths of that treasure for themselves. Finally they can automate away doing violence against anyone who threatens the social order when it used to be an unavoidable cost of doing business.
whateveracct · 2026-08-28 20:07:30 UTC
shut it down!
meowface · 2026-08-28 20:34:22 UTC
LOVEINT is likely highly undernoticed.
I am unsure if I'm 100% anti-Flock, but requiring a court order or exigent circumstance to look at any Flock camera feed may be necessary.
jackp96 · 2026-08-28 20:52:23 UTC
This is where I'm at. It's a valuable, powerful technology, but police should absolutely not be allowed to just use it for whatever they want.
Shut it all down until we build a framework for handling this kind of power responsibily.
blitzar · 2026-08-28 21:27:18 UTC
At the absolute very least - access should be aggressively logged and analysed.
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Yeah, I bet you don't.
Regardless, hemming and hawing about lack of access controls and rogue (i.e. not using to do their job properly) cops is implicitly saying that this system could/would/should exist if it has "proper" access controls, whatever that means. It's like seeing a slave labor gulag and saying that the prisoners need better recreation ad more frequent laundry as if that would make it not fundamentally a gulag. To say things like access controls need to be fixed or tied to warrants is advocating for turd polishing. Even with proper access controls the purpose of these systems is to create misery at the hands of the state. The turd is still a turd even if it's shiny.
I am unsure if I'm 100% anti-Flock, but requiring a court order or exigent circumstance to look at any Flock camera feed may be necessary.
Shut it all down until we build a framework for handling this kind of power responsibily.
And shut it down.