Nano-texture upgrade option is coming for the whole line of products.
Edit: the thing I'm confused about is it seems there are at least two but maybe three different things that they are calling "nano-texture". On buying screens, the Studio Display and iPad Mini say "Nano-texture glass" and the new MacBook Pro says "Nano-texture display." But the Duo marketing says "Nano-texture finish."
I get that the internal Duo screen has the film over it and so it says "finish," but is there a difference between "glass" and "display"?
commandersaki · 2026-10-27 13:24:58 UTC
You mean even for the air?
rickdeckard · 2026-10-27 13:38:16 UTC
"Nano-texture glass" and "Nano-texture display" should refer to the same: A microscopic etching into the display glass.
"Nano-texture finish" on iPhone Duo refers to an additional layer they put on top of the display panel. It's basically a sticker with a similar (same?) surface structure (they can't put it on the display glass itself because it's too thin)
floydnoel · 2026-10-27 13:40:39 UTC
I could be wrong, but I think glass=hard, while finish=soft. The inside Duo screen is not hard like the outer glass.
elicash · 2026-10-27 13:43:15 UTC
I get glass vs finish. But there's a third term being used for the new M6 MacBook Pro, which is nano-texture "display." Someone clarified that it's the same as the "glass" so I take this to just be Day 1 marketing confusion that'll hopefully get cleaned up on the buying screen.
layer8 · 2026-10-27 16:43:23 UTC
They are very similar, but maybe not identical. The iPad nano-texture reportedly is less prone to fingerprints than at least the XDR monitor; perhaps that’s just an additional oleophobic coating. There may also be generational differences as these weren’t introduced at the same time and may come from different production lines.
codeduck · 2026-10-27 13:42:36 UTC
It's preparation for the inevitable nano-texture cloth you need to buy from Apple to wipe the screen with.
Hates_ · 2026-10-27 15:40:32 UTC
That's exactly what the £9 Apple Polishing Cloth is!
> Made with soft, non-abrasive material, the Polishing Cloth cleans any Apple display, including nano-texture, safely and effectively.
goatking · 2026-10-27 17:29:23 UTC
That is surprisingly cheap from Apple
brailsafe · 2026-10-27 18:13:10 UTC
They recently reduced the price (also rare from Apple), but the macbooks with nano upgrade do ship with one.
I will say that it's the best cloth ever, and the nano upgrade is worth it
resters · 2026-10-27 13:42:47 UTC
Maybe Apple is shifting the terminology from display to glass as an homage to fine watch terminology.
coreyh14444 · 2026-10-27 13:08:52 UTC
Wasn't this rumored to have OLED or am I confusing it with something else?
Any possibility that these will also support the Apple Pencil?
the_sleaze_ · 2026-10-27 13:20:12 UTC
Looking forward to the Apple Pink Pencil Cap Eraser
ramses0 · 2026-10-27 13:42:08 UTC
Product ReD in cahoots with U2 and U3.
miller_joe · 2026-10-27 13:12:17 UTC
I believe Apple is expected to announce MacBook Pro 16” with OLED on Nov 6th (macrumors.com)
weird-eye-issue · 2026-10-27 13:09:30 UTC
After using a 16" laptop it would be hard for me to go back
DetroitThrow · 2026-10-27 13:14:15 UTC
I ended up doing the opposite! After being on the go with 15, 16, and 17 inch laptops I've finally moved to smaller 13 and 14 inch screens.
It's much, much easier to transport even though I do miss the screen real estate.
technothrasher · 2026-10-27 13:16:39 UTC
I travel a lot with my 13" MacBook Air and can't imagine wanting to deal with anything bigger and heavier.
eknkc · 2026-10-27 13:22:28 UTC
Yeah 14" pro is the best thing I have ever moved around with. I have a studio display at my desk though.
kphorn · 2026-10-27 13:19:28 UTC
The good news is bigger laptops coming tomorrow in the phased release.
carlgreene · 2026-10-27 13:22:41 UTC
I feel like I am about to go the opposite way lol. Love the 16" screen...hate lugging it around
SecretDreams · 2026-10-27 13:25:46 UTC
Really just function of mobility? Move a lot? 15-16 is combersome. Stationary often, maybe just roaming from your desk to your couch/bed? 16 is totally fine.
I'm in the 14-15 camp w/ lighter form factors being worth the premium.
I tried below 13 after the trend of smaller laptops from a couple years back - I now don't believe anyone who tells me they're regularly productive on these smaller form factors lol.
nick_ · 2026-10-27 14:24:30 UTC
A 15" MacBook Air with a 120Hz OLED would be perfect IMO.
icedchai · 2026-10-27 13:26:00 UTC
Same. I had a 14" M1 Pro and found it the screen too small for my aging eyes.
commandersaki · 2026-10-27 13:30:39 UTC
Yeah. I love my 16" almost max specced out, but for travel I wanted something lighter and compact so I got a 13" m5 mba.
Love both.
Danox · 2026-10-27 13:15:22 UTC
Nice, but in the long term, Apple is going to need to bring memory in-house.
eastbound · 2026-10-27 13:18:47 UTC
Apple has moved from a "Big day out" of marketing per year, where all product lineups would be announced, with novelty and conferences, to rolling releases along the year.
Do they get the same marketing impact?
hurfdurf · 2026-10-27 13:34:30 UTC
Apple has had release-weeks in spring and fall, with some variance, for a while now:
Post-COVID Apple releases have been totally different than the Jobs era.
makmanalp · 2026-10-27 13:20:35 UTC
Man every time I want to get a new macbook air they come up with a new macbook pro which means 6 months later they're going to come up with a new generation of airs by which time I think "let me wait a bit and see if people like it", and so here I am with a 2022 M2 that is perfectly fine except for the disk being too small.
rickdeckard · 2026-10-27 13:34:09 UTC
The unbearable burden of consumerism.
"You didn't even finish your M2 yet and already want to refill your plate?"
yunnpp · 2026-10-27 17:30:34 UTC
Maybe gp should try squeezing it through the other major cavity of the body. Might have some extra room there.
telesilla · 2026-10-27 13:44:48 UTC
I'm still on my early 2022 macbook 14" M1, which I was thoughtful enough to get 64gb ram for at the time, and remain still incredibly happy. M6 must be nuts!
neilsimp1 · 2026-10-27 13:50:48 UTC
Genuine question from someone who knows nothing about Apple products... can't you replace/upgrade the drive?
arghwhat · 2026-10-27 13:58:16 UTC
Heh, no, it's soldered.
If you throw enough money at a sufficiently skilled technician it can be done, but no M.2 slots in sight here.
Thanks! I can't believe I didn't know how easy this is!
lynndotpy · 2026-10-27 17:19:11 UTC
For those who can't see the video, I think the above two commenters are being facetious for humor.
It is funny because the video is 50 minutes long which requires a difficult soldering job and chip reprogramming. This does not include the process of opening the Macbook Pro, disassembling it, removing the logic board, nor the reverse process.
bel_marinaio · 2026-10-27 16:55:13 UTC
Soldered to the board for anyone that does not know
pbasista · 2026-10-27 14:01:47 UTC
They are soldered in. Replacement itself can probably be done by a professional repair technician who is equipped with the right tools. But it is not a self-service job that anyone can do.
On top of that, the drives might be somehow paired to the motherboard. And I would imagine that pairing a new one with the existing motherboard may require some proprietary software that only Apple has.
These are only my assumptions though. People e.g. at Louis Rossmann's repair shop might know more.
philistine · 2026-10-27 17:26:26 UTC
Apple does not use common parts for its storage. People are used to M.2 drives, but those have the controller on the stick, and Apple has integrated the controller inside its M-series. So you first need to find compatible storage in the first place, and the only place it can come from is a donor Mac.
alt227 · 2026-10-27 14:03:18 UTC
This is an Apple device, the word upgrade does not exist in their world.
DaSHacka · 2026-10-27 15:52:59 UTC
Of course it does! You just have to go to a Genius Bar after the release of a new MacBook, and tell them you're interested in buying one. They'll even handle recycling your old one for you!
hias · 2026-10-27 17:17:36 UTC
You really know nothing, lol!
When was the last time you replaced your "drive" inside your Android phone?
rTX5CMRXIfFG · 2026-10-27 13:59:23 UTC
Just get the Air. Moore's law peaked a long time ago and the differences between the M-generations are too small to be meaningful.
dreamcompiler · 2026-10-27 14:25:16 UTC
I got a used M2 Air a year ago and it's the best Apple laptop I've ever owned. And I've owned dozens.
Plus it runs Asahi linux on the metal.
FinnKuhn · 2026-10-27 14:00:13 UTC
I still have the original M1 Pro (thankfully with enough disk space) and I still don't really see a reason to upgrade. Since the M1 all these MacBooks are more than powerful enough for anything I might want to do and the original battery life was so good an upgrade would harldy be worth it.
unsloppable · 2026-10-27 14:41:04 UTC
They're snappier, that's about it.
riffraff · 2026-10-27 16:23:27 UTC
Same here. A part of me wants to get a new MBP but I really can't justify it.
pinktonio · 2026-10-27 16:47:01 UTC
playing gta 6 on it maybe.
FinnKuhn · 2026-10-27 17:18:36 UTC
It's a console exclusive as of now and if/when it releases for computers at least I would rather play it on a dedicated Gaming PC and not a Laptop.
seabrookmx · 2026-10-27 17:10:00 UTC
Yeah you Mac users are spoiled. I bought this Framework 13 with the Ryzen 5 340 last year and was blown away at how fast it was, only to discover that it's roughly on par with the M1 Pro that came out 4 years earlier (and has much better battery life).
I don't _need_ the battery life and still prefer to run Linux so the tradeoff is worth it to me, but for most users it's pretty hard to not recommend a Macbook.
FinnKuhn · 2026-10-27 17:21:05 UTC
> I don't _need_ the battery life and still prefer to run Linux so the tradeoff is worth it to me, but for most users it's pretty hard to not recommend a Macbook.
The thing is I never had a Mac(Book) before, but the hardware at the time was just so much ahead of anything else that I didn't mind that limitation. At least for what I bought it any OS (Windows/MacOS/Linux) would have been totally fine.
ant6n · 2026-10-27 18:22:34 UTC
I don’t understand this. I have a m4 with 16gb, and it can barely run office. Throw in a couple of browser tabs of ChatGPT and LinkedIn, and it slows to a crawl.
Every app window / browser tab is like 1GB these days.
karim79 · 2026-10-27 14:11:50 UTC
Exactly the same story here. I'm still very happily using an M2, which is just great.
peezd · 2026-10-27 15:03:27 UTC
Yeah, I'm still on a 2021 M1 Pro and the only real complaint is that the battery has weakened somewhat, but still fine. and if I really cared I would probably figure out what to do to get firefox from being such a constant drain.
jonpurdy · 2026-10-27 16:59:44 UTC
I bought my 2022 M2 Air with 24GB/1TB/10-core GPU. Very very glad I did.
The only reason I’m bitter is because they put in WiFi 6E in the M3 generation. Now I just use a 2.5Gbe USB-C adaptor when transferring large files to and from my NAS.
seemaze · 2026-10-27 17:18:28 UTC
I picked up a 24GB 2TB M2 air and it's still cruising along. Short of having the foresight to pick up 512GB Ultra prior to the rampocalypse, I'm happy.
qubex · 2026-10-27 18:26:13 UTC
I’m in the exact same predicament: I bought an M2 Air upon release in 2022, chose a BTO with 16 GB of RAM, the top-bin processor, and it still runs absolutely 100% perfectly. Unlike the OP, I’m doing very OK with storage, so I don’t even have that excuse.
The machine is basically flawless and entirely suitable for everything I throw at it (and throw stuff at it I do: when I’m not web-browsing or playing YouTube videos I’m using Wolfram Mathematica, which is one heck of a resource hog) and it’s absolutely utterly fine and blasé about the whole thing.
As things are, I can see myself keeping it for a decade. There was a time when I used to change Apple laptops on a yearly basis (starting with PowerBook G4s in the early/mid 2000s and up until the mid 2010s, when I migrated most of my mobile computing to iPads… which lasted for about a decade until I got this thing).
alberth · 2026-10-27 13:26:01 UTC
I thought Apple "Pro & Tell" day is tomorrow.
Makes me now wonder what's in store for tomorrow's pro launch.
mastry · 2026-10-27 13:40:02 UTC
Touchscreens, supposedly.
gniv · 2026-10-27 13:27:08 UTC
And it's still $1999. That's impressive. I paid the same for the M1 Pro in 2021.
culopatin · 2026-10-27 13:31:11 UTC
And it’s still working amazing. Other than trying to run an agent locally I haven’t ran into any limiting bottlenecks
gniv · 2026-10-27 14:19:53 UTC
Mine has a broken fan so I have to run it in slow mode and it's still working fine.
mono442 · 2026-10-27 13:37:41 UTC
They have huge margins and can absorb price increases of some of the components.
Hamuko · 2026-10-27 14:03:48 UTC
A bit less impressive considering that it's the M6 and not the M6 Pro.
tefkah · 2026-10-27 14:32:55 UTC
like really what's the point of this laptop man, just trying to get more money out of people who otherwise wouldve gotten the M6 Air?
foldr · 2026-10-27 14:55:43 UTC
In terms of performance, the difference is active cooling. That will matter to people who are regularly doing sustained CPU or GPU intensive workloads.
fckgw · 2026-10-27 15:47:51 UTC
The Pro has a bigger brighter ProMotion display. It has active cooling, larger speakers, more ports, longer battery life, better graphics performance, better keyboard, and a larger default storage option (starts at 1tb).
If the Base M6 is good enough processor for you but want a more "premium" product, then the base Pro makes sense.
rjrjrjrj · 2026-10-27 17:42:58 UTC
Better display, more ports.
Also, there is no M6 Air yet.
philistine · 2026-10-27 17:53:07 UTC
I got an M5 Macbook Pro instead of an M5 Air because the Pro has more screen real estate, a much better screen, and its fans means I never hit the thermal maximum of the laptop.
gniv · 2026-10-27 16:13:44 UTC
Ah good point. Is there somewhere a comparison between M6 and M1 Pro?
haseebws94 · 2026-10-27 17:42:52 UTC
geekbench scores are roughly double for the m6 over the M1 Pro single core and multi-core CPU
It seems that you can only get 32GBs of RAM maximum for the new 14" M6 Macbooks? M5 still has 64GB options available. edit: the larger configurations are only available for the Pro and Max chips apparently.
cmdrmac · 2026-10-27 13:30:17 UTC
I think the M5 Pro can be configured with the 64 gb option, not the regular m5 chip.
lettergram · 2026-10-27 13:59:15 UTC
I'm running an M5 max with 128Gb of RAM right now on a 14" macbook pro
weystrom · 2026-10-27 13:28:41 UTC
Great hardware, but I can't stand MacOS anymore after switching to Linux on home dekstop. KDE is such a breath of fresh air after years of dealing with Apple's idiosyncrasies.
I think I'll keep my Framework 13 Pro preorder.
cdelsolar · 2026-10-27 13:57:26 UTC
Yeah I use KDE as well for my desktop and it’s the perfect environment. (Btw I use Arch)
Still I’m very tempted by the new MacBooks. I don’t know of any laptop that is a tenth as good and I don’t want to sit at my desk all day to use a computer.
cosmic_cheese · 2026-10-27 14:00:47 UTC
I’m using KDE on the gaming box I recently transitioned away from Windows as well as on a secondary single-use laptop where Linux has been installed for a while.
It’s not bad, but I find it still to be very much an acquired taste. It’s fine for my usage, where the DE has barely any impact but having been using macOS as my main OS for the better part of 30 years, it would probably drive me insane if I had to shift my main body of computer use to it. It’s not any one thing, but dozens of papercuts that can’t be configured away (I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them) as well as the more Windows-like desktop paradigm.
alt227 · 2026-10-27 14:06:15 UTC
> I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them
At least this is an option with Linux
cosmic_cheese · 2026-10-27 14:07:37 UTC
In theory maybe, but in reality it’s a full-time job keeping up with changes from mainline with big projects like KDE, which isn’t very practical if you need to do other things to keep a paycheck coming in.
alt227 · 2026-10-27 14:11:24 UTC
"Claude, update my project to be compatible with the latest KDE changelog"
nozzlegear · 2026-10-27 14:48:52 UTC
Don't forget to add "make no mistakes."
Matl · 2026-10-27 17:22:24 UTC
> It’s not any one thing, but dozens of papercuts that can’t be configured away
Exactly how I feel about having to use macOS at work, except some of the 'configurations away' are overpriced plugins/third party tools.
cosmic_cheese · 2026-10-27 17:45:20 UTC
Many seem to not want to admit it for some reason, but the truth is that desktop environments are an extremely personal, subjective sort of software. One person's nirvana is another's anathema.
This is why I think it's important that there's a wealth of different desktops available to use that represent a variety of different paradigms, particularly in the context of Linux on the desktop. Desktop Linux represents the ultimate in potential to mold the computer to the user instead of the reverse, and it really bums me out to see suggestions or implications that would-be Linux users should just accept a Windows-ish shape or tiling keyboard-driven shape and stop hoping for something more Mac-like (which as an aside, GNOME is not despite superficial appearances).
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Edit: the thing I'm confused about is it seems there are at least two but maybe three different things that they are calling "nano-texture". On buying screens, the Studio Display and iPad Mini say "Nano-texture glass" and the new MacBook Pro says "Nano-texture display." But the Duo marketing says "Nano-texture finish."
I get that the internal Duo screen has the film over it and so it says "finish," but is there a difference between "glass" and "display"?
"Nano-texture finish" on iPhone Duo refers to an additional layer they put on top of the display panel. It's basically a sticker with a similar (same?) surface structure (they can't put it on the display glass itself because it's too thin)
> Made with soft, non-abrasive material, the Polishing Cloth cleans any Apple display, including nano-texture, safely and effectively.
I will say that it's the best cloth ever, and the nano upgrade is worth it
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/10/25/macbook-pro-with-touchs...
It's much, much easier to transport even though I do miss the screen real estate.
I'm in the 14-15 camp w/ lighter form factors being worth the premium.
I tried below 13 after the trend of smaller laptops from a couple years back - I now don't believe anyone who tells me they're regularly productive on these smaller form factors lol.
Love both.
Do they get the same marketing impact?
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#mac https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#ipad
"You didn't even finish your M2 yet and already want to refill your plate?"
If you throw enough money at a sufficiently skilled technician it can be done, but no M.2 slots in sight here.
It is funny because the video is 50 minutes long which requires a difficult soldering job and chip reprogramming. This does not include the process of opening the Macbook Pro, disassembling it, removing the logic board, nor the reverse process.
On top of that, the drives might be somehow paired to the motherboard. And I would imagine that pairing a new one with the existing motherboard may require some proprietary software that only Apple has.
These are only my assumptions though. People e.g. at Louis Rossmann's repair shop might know more.
Plus it runs Asahi linux on the metal.
I don't _need_ the battery life and still prefer to run Linux so the tradeoff is worth it to me, but for most users it's pretty hard to not recommend a Macbook.
The thing is I never had a Mac(Book) before, but the hardware at the time was just so much ahead of anything else that I didn't mind that limitation. At least for what I bought it any OS (Windows/MacOS/Linux) would have been totally fine.
Every app window / browser tab is like 1GB these days.
The only reason I’m bitter is because they put in WiFi 6E in the M3 generation. Now I just use a 2.5Gbe USB-C adaptor when transferring large files to and from my NAS.
The machine is basically flawless and entirely suitable for everything I throw at it (and throw stuff at it I do: when I’m not web-browsing or playing YouTube videos I’m using Wolfram Mathematica, which is one heck of a resource hog) and it’s absolutely utterly fine and blasé about the whole thing.
As things are, I can see myself keeping it for a decade. There was a time when I used to change Apple laptops on a yearly basis (starting with PowerBook G4s in the early/mid 2000s and up until the mid 2010s, when I migrated most of my mobile computing to iPads… which lasted for about a decade until I got this thing).
Makes me now wonder what's in store for tomorrow's pro launch.
If the Base M6 is good enough processor for you but want a more "premium" product, then the base Pro makes sense.
Also, there is no M6 Air yet.
https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m6-12-core-vs-ap...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48672732 https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/apple-raises-pric...
I think I'll keep my Framework 13 Pro preorder.
Still I’m very tempted by the new MacBooks. I don’t know of any laptop that is a tenth as good and I don’t want to sit at my desk all day to use a computer.
It’s not bad, but I find it still to be very much an acquired taste. It’s fine for my usage, where the DE has barely any impact but having been using macOS as my main OS for the better part of 30 years, it would probably drive me insane if I had to shift my main body of computer use to it. It’s not any one thing, but dozens of papercuts that can’t be configured away (I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them) as well as the more Windows-like desktop paradigm.
At least this is an option with Linux
Exactly how I feel about having to use macOS at work, except some of the 'configurations away' are overpriced plugins/third party tools.
This is why I think it's important that there's a wealth of different desktops available to use that represent a variety of different paradigms, particularly in the context of Linux on the desktop. Desktop Linux represents the ultimate in potential to mold the computer to the user instead of the reverse, and it really bums me out to see suggestions or implications that would-be Linux users should just accept a Windows-ish shape or tiling keyboard-driven shape and stop hoping for something more Mac-like (which as an aside, GNOME is not despite superficial appearances).